Nuestra Señora de la Santísima Trinidad, nicknamed La Real, was a ship of the line of the Spanish Navy which was the largest warship in the world when launched. She originally mounted 112 guns, which was increased between 1795 and 1796 to 130 guns by closing in the spar deck between the quarterdeck and forecastle. In 1802 Santísima Trinidad was further upgraded to 140 guns, including four guns on the poop deck, effectively creating a continuous fourth gundeck, although the extra guns added were relatively small. She was the most heavily armed ship in the world when rebuilt, and bore the most guns of any ship of the line outfitted in the Age of Sail.
the key to victory is defining victory as any navy battle you sail away from. emphasize speed over all other attributes. if you engage in battle, it had better be a hit and run tactic
The British have repeatedly spanked the Spanish in naval battles because British canons had superior range and could obliterate the Spanish before they got close enough to do any damage. Big guns with short range are not nearly as good as small canons with long range.
I don’t know about that. The largest dude I’ve seen was in Shreveport Louisiana. I was going to pick up some fried alligator and hush puppies from a small place deep in the ghetto. This dude walks out and gets into his car and the car made this sickening creaking crunching sound as he sat down. I’m genuinely shocked he was still able to walk at all. Still I knew I’d made the right choice in ordering from there.
Ummm…. Sorry, but in the days of Trafalgar, the ordinary sailors would have joined up to get a regular meal, or press-ganged to join. They were flogged to do exactly what they were told, hung by being dragged up a mast for disobedience. Training?
Even captains of ships could be shot for failing to attack. It was authoritarian at best. Failure not an option.
For the purposes of war, all that matters is that their crews were more effective than other countries’ crews, you can call their method of achieving that whatever you want. All major militaries of the time were authoritarian and brutal (and actually almost all of them still are) As much as we soften and even trivialize the idea of military service both in the past and in modern times, ordering somebody to go into a hostile situation and put their own lives in personal danger requires a very high degree of authority and usually significant coercion, and yes, “training” of a particular sort. It takes a lot of work to traumatize someone enough that fear of plausible and expected death is no longer their overriding motivation in all cases.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad
“Enemy ship sighted to the North!”
“Roger that! Commence removal of ’North’!”
Didn’t go well… Battle of Trafalger
Hehe poop deck.
Yes, I know that’s not where the poop goes since it’s originally a Fr🤮nch term for stern, but in my head cannon it is.
I like to shoot grapeshot out of my head cannon
Meanwhile the Dutch:
We’ll casually navigate up the river Medway and destroy the entire British fleet in the harbour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
Portuguese …. screw the guns, let’s see how far we can sail this ship from all these other guys
Muchos cañones = Mucho daño
American navy during this era:
the key to victory is defining victory as any navy battle you sail away from. emphasize speed over all other attributes. if you engage in battle, it had better be a hit and run tactic
I thought it was "Pay other people to fight our battles for us" :p
lol fair. but then errybody was getting in on that action
The British have repeatedly spanked the Spanish in naval battles because British canons had superior range and could obliterate the Spanish before they got close enough to do any damage. Big guns with short range are not nearly as good as small canons with long range.
Are you saying Anglicans are bigger than Catholics?
I don’t know about that. The largest dude I’ve seen was in Shreveport Louisiana. I was going to pick up some fried alligator and hush puppies from a small place deep in the ghetto. This dude walks out and gets into his car and the car made this sickening creaking crunching sound as he sat down. I’m genuinely shocked he was still able to walk at all. Still I knew I’d made the right choice in ordering from there.
The glass canon build.
I like that you translated the Fr*nch into a real language.
Texas finally embracing its Spanish heritage 😭🙏
Korean Navy: “One Admiral with adamantine balls and enclosed decks”.
@PugJesus not as mucho cannon as Vasa, though
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#britain #british
Ummm…. Sorry, but in the days of Trafalgar, the ordinary sailors would have joined up to get a regular meal, or press-ganged to join. They were flogged to do exactly what they were told, hung by being dragged up a mast for disobedience. Training?
Even captains of ships could be shot for failing to attack. It was authoritarian at best. Failure not an option.
… training and coercion are not mutually exclusive. All pre-modern professional militaries are deeply coercive; not all are well-trained.
For the purposes of war, all that matters is that their crews were more effective than other countries’ crews, you can call their method of achieving that whatever you want. All major militaries of the time were authoritarian and brutal (and actually almost all of them still are) As much as we soften and even trivialize the idea of military service both in the past and in modern times, ordering somebody to go into a hostile situation and put their own lives in personal danger requires a very high degree of authority and usually significant coercion, and yes, “training” of a particular sort. It takes a lot of work to traumatize someone enough that fear of plausible and expected death is no longer their overriding motivation in all cases.
@PugJesus
Dutch navy : Sauerkraut and no scurvy