So... last time I told my mom to get out of the room when I was with the therapist/psychitrist (or whatever... idk their roles) and now my mom is insisting to be in the room with me for the future...
So last time they asked how is my relationship with my parents when my mom was in the room⦠š¤¦āāļø how was I supposed to honestly answer that lmfaoā¦
So I told mom to leaveā¦
So today she told me she want to be in the room with me from now onā¦
Because shes āworriesā they will try to ātrickā me into talking more which then āthey would use as an excuse to overprescribeā dosage that is too high⦠or whatever
And she uses dad and the blood pressure thing as an example like she says: āeverything was fine until [dad] mentioned āhigh blood pressureā to the doctir and now the doctor is prescribing so much āunnecessaryā medicationsā
Also sheās kinda into Traditional Chinese Medicineā¦
Funny thing is the next appointment is virtual⦠so I guess Iām just gonna āforgetā to remind her about it lol.
So yeah⦠thatās the story of my life
Like⦠before yāall yell ānarcissistā⦠I do genuinely think there is a part of her that ācaresā about me⦠but I feel like its a kinda twisted and weird way of āloveāā¦
Like it comes with control, āmother knows it allā type of shit
I think Iām starting to understand the term āemeshmentāā¦
Now I think I understand why China has a bunch of depressed people that are unemployed/donāt really feel motivated in life⦠(see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_ping)
I doubt most people in China even seeks treatment for depressionā¦
Why was I born into this culture? š
Iām so lucky to have emigrated⦠cuz How do young depressed people in China even deal with this shit? I mean with this shame culture⦠š¤
(anyways feel free to ignore, just need a place to sort of vent)
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Next time your therapist asks about your relationship with your mother, I think āshe is in the room right now and refuses to leave while I talk to you about herā is a pretty good place to start.
If she hears you saying that and gets upset, thatās also important for your therapist to know.
Iām happy to hear that you have a therapist.
It sounds strange that the therapist didnāt suggest for the parent to leave before asking about the relationship. Very proud of you for asking your mum to leave when the topic came up!
If you manage to speak to them alone, you could tell them that you are having issues with boundaries with your parents and you need their help to make sure your therapy can be made safe and with kept confidentiality so you can speak freely. Then you can figure out together how that can be implemented - maybe by having every other session be private, ot by having the therapist ask your mother to leave for like 30 min every session.
You need privacy to figure out who you are and where to find your own strength and courage without your family.
Good luck!
Iām not going to diagnose her, because all I know about her is from your post and the one comment. What I will say, though, is just because someone seems to care about someone, doesnāt mean that theyāre not a narcissist. Narcissists will often make it so their actions seem caring, and that is specifically part of what they use to hook you.
Take my example - I was abused by a narcissist for a year or so. One of the things she did was to worry about my alcohol consumption. Seems like a genuine caring thing to do, alcoholism can be a serious problem. I like to party, but Iām not an alcoholic and never have been. But hereās the thing: partying is usually when I saw my friends, and those friends were worried about what was happening to me. They didnāt know the ins and outs of emotional abuse, but they knew that something was off, and they knew my abuser was up to no good. Of course, my abuser didnāt want me to realize what was going on, so that was a way of getting me to have less contact with those friends (she also āworriedā that they were the wrong crowd to hang out with). And I generally believed that she was genuinely concerned, albeit misguided - due to all the manipulation, there was no way in hell that I would believe it wasnāt genuine concern. And I believed it for a hell of a long time. It was kind of a catch 22 - how could I possibly accuse her of having ulterior motives if sheās doing so much for me, even if it is misguided? And because I wouldnāt dare accuse her of having ulterior motives, I contributed to believe that she was actually doing things for me, making me more emotionally attached. It took me three months after I was out of that situation to realize that maybe she wasnāt doing all these things out of the misguided goodness of her heart, and that maybe there was some other reason. And then, things started to click. In a horrifying fashion.
Letās come back to your situation. You had mentioned that it is a matter of control, which is spot on. Letās take that a bit further: as you alluded to, it means you canāt talk honestly about the relationship with your mother. That seems to be something you want to do, and rightly so. What could the consequences be if you take to your therapist about that relationship? Well you could come to the realization that the relationship is toxic, or abusive. That realization is the first step to getting out of a toxic or abusive relationship, and that is in all likelihood something your mother wants to avoid at all costs. So, essentially, being there when that topic comes up could be a way to nip it at the bud.
Iām not saying that she is a narcissist. What I am saying is that itās in your best interest to not discount that possibility all that quickly, especially since your reason for discounting it is typical for people who are experiencing narcissistic abuse but havenāt come to terms with it yet. Take your time, and try to stay open minded, even if it is very difficult in that kind of a situation (and definitely try to find a way to speak with your therapist without your mother around, you are absolutely on the right track with that).
Yeah she is overbearing it sounds like. The āperfectā thing would be to explain to her that there is topics you need to be alone with your therapist for. Of course it sounds like you donāt have the energy to do that, and your mom also might not understand.
What Iām trying to say that whole thing is not normal and both your mom and your therapist should be more professional and understanding of this.
Iām sorry you have to deal with all of this, but it will definitely get better. And of course all the things you feel make total sense given the situation you are finding yourself in.
I donāt have any advice, but wish you luck and hope you make progress.
Go outside and run walk skate swim. It sounds cliche butbprolonged physical movement will help a lot more than just drugs will.
Last time I went to the restaurant with my parents⦠I kinda just sat there depressed while I have nothing to talk about with themā¦
Then I went to a park and took a walk there⦠kinda fun⦠but then like it felt so exhausting when I got home then next day the same shit again⦠(felt depressed again)
Like how many times of this I need to get ācuredā?
Ahhhh I need my drivers license but I need a doctor to fill the papers to even get a learners permit but they think Iām too depressed to drive⦠like wtf even is this, its a driverās license ffs, not a pilots license lmfao (Pennsylvania, USA btw⦠I hate this shenanigan with the stupid DMV)
So I feel trapped, canāt go anywhere.
My parents arenāt always available to drive me to placesā¦
The park I like to walk in is outside of walking distance.
So I feel like the univers is trolling me.
And no, I donāt feel like walking around my block⦠too many kids running around and theyāre too anxiety inducing (I mean how do you even deal with kids running around that are not of your ethnicity⦠I feel like theyāre gonna yell slurs at me)⦠just too many people and I donāt wanna get recognized like āOOH DO YOU LIVE AT [address]ā then theyāre gonna be like āhey look itās the weirdo Chinese boy that lives at [address]ā and Iām gonna feel more anxietyā¦
I mean itās Philly, deep blue city, shouldnāt be that racist⦠but still⦠flashbacks to school years in Philly⦠children can be very cruel, I know from experience, and the thing about being legally an adult is that I canāt just yell back at them anymore like I could when I was still in school.
Never actually interacted with them⦠so its just my fears speaking⦠I rarely ever walking around my block for the past like 10 years⦠mostly just get in a car and like get driven by parents to somewhereā¦
I kinda feel like I wanna be a ghost⦠just donāt want people to see me and potentially get into a confrontationā¦
Idk whatās the point of this wall of text honestlyā¦
(Thanks for commenting btw, at least I donāt feel like Iām yelling into the void lol)
I had a bike when I was a kid and as long as I was home for dinner, nobody cared. I biked a lot. Like 2 or 3 cities over, maybe 25 miles each way. Parents thought it was good exercise. I now realize that it was freedom. I went to tge computer store and played games on the computers I could not afford. Also, in hindsight, biking was the physical thing that I needed so that I didnāt punch someone, or worse. I had lots of rage and took it out on the road. I averaged 18MPH, which is pushing pretty hard.
Part 2: until social media, I never realized how messed up the Chinese culture is. Iām sorry to hear that you are going through all this.
I see why youāre in therapy. Good luck.